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November 28th, 2009, 2:45 pm



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Dregan , November 17th, 2009, 2:47 pm Dregan , August 23rd, 2017, 6:48 am


The Mother of Bar'd


~Exposition, Exposition~
Yes, would you believe it, a character with background? In my Bar'd? Sure I jest, you must question. Well I jest not, now you know stuff about a character.
This really makes me feel bad about my series.








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Imperial unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 3:07 pm


meh lack of background sometimes spawns off of let's make up our comic pages as we go along not really a big deal, you'll get to it when you get to it, personally i don't mind seeing the crazy shit go on in this time frame i have a feel vas's past will be saddening


Shoku2121 unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 3:10 pm


Hmm I see.....


Yamataro unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 3:10 pm


Lack of BG info MAKE HULK ANGRY! HULK SMASH!


Shard unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 3:21 pm


Yes, I'd imagine all the MSN conversations that we've had would do that to you.


Sadpanda unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 5:01 pm


inb4Agram'scomment


Ganato unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 5:28 pm


Hard worker.


G.I.U.L.I.O. unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 28th, 2009, 9:16 pm


@Shard: They most likely did. *Shifts eyes left and right*


Evil Agram unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 29th, 2009, 2:45 am


Joke dull. I even eased up this time when reading to make sure it wasn't just me being predisposed to expect that the comic is bad.

Not much to say. Same dull art, same dull strip.

Hell, xkcd is a comic I haven't expected anything good from in a long time and they got a funny comic out the other day. The xkcdsucks blog even agreed with me.

I think you need a better idea than stuffing something sorta punchline-like in at the end of every strip.

EDIT: Oh. He has a background. I didn't notice, sorry. Now he's not just a barmai- tender, but a generic "guy strapped for cash".

@Sadpanda: Shoo!


Afroman17 unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 29th, 2009, 3:33 am

QFT
I think you need a better idea than stuffing something sorta punchline-like in at the end of every strip.


SliceOfDog unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 29th, 2009, 6:07 pm


*I won't be doing this often, but I feel it's an important point, so I'm gonna quote Evil Agram from the last page*

"Honestly I think Dregan has decided to ignore me. Poor move. Don't ignore your detractors. I sure as hell don't."

This is a very interesting point, and you're quite right. He's been ignoring you which I personally don't think I'd do. Bad move on several accounts, since his fans have been arguing in his defence stronger than I think he'd do himself, making him seem like some sort of undeserving sprite-Jesus.
However, me and him were having a conversation earlier, and we both agreed (As would many others I'm sure) that if you toned down your complaints even slightly people would be more willing to listen to your points. He's even agreed with some of your points have been pretty poor as of late.

But continually posting things along the lines of;
"Joke dull. I even eased up this time when reading to make sure it wasn't just me being predisposed to expect that the comic is bad.

Not much to say. Same dull art, same dull strip."

You may be predisposed to expect the comic will be bad, and in the same way Dregan is predisposed to expect your comment to be useless criticism. If you were just a little less high-and-mighty about it all I'm certain he'd listen and maybe even take it on board. It's too easy to cross you off as a random troll like people have been saying. Even if you aren't, artists can think that and justify ignoring you to themselves.
Prove them wrong by not just calling their comic dull/bad etc and by maybe saying what you did like. For example, you said in the last comic that you appreciated that Vas was sprited from scratch. Well, lead with that. I read a long journal by an artist on DA who's just goddam amazing (I THINK it was http://kaceym.deviantart.com/ , but I might be wrong) who said that critique has really helped her, but she advised everyone the best way to do it was to:
Start with a compliment,
Raise your point, telling them HOW they could improve instead of just insulting them,
End with a compliment.

It might seem a bit laborious and maybe a little nicer than you'd like to be, but if you want people to improve like you claim you do, then use that method. If you don't, and carry on as normal, clearly you don't want people to improve as much as you claim.
Just something to mull over.


Dregan unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 29th, 2009, 6:16 pm


I probably should step in at some point... the reason I've not been responding myself is because as I stated a few comics back, I'm supposed to be taking a break for stress purposes. And when I'm trying to get over stress, this is one of the last things I really want to be dealing with especially in what is for the most part supposed to be my break...
But I have to concur with what SOD is saying in that if you actually made your criticism seem worthwhile, if you gave any such reason for people to listen to you, maybe they would. I always find it ironic your going on about how people should listen to you, yet you yourself are ignorant of others and don't listen to them when suggesting a different approach. Your current one doesn't make you seem like you're criticising, it comes down more to repeatedly complaining, and you make it a displeasure to listen to your points. If people don't WANT to listen to your points, they're not going to, and you're actually driving people away from wanting to hear your viewpoint. Your approach to this isn't positive and doesn't help at all. The only reason I have to change anything so far is because it would make you leave me alone. Not because of the improvements or how for the sake of the comic itself, but more because you make yourself a displeasure to interact with. Maybe if you actually made it so you didn't constantly drive your point in a complaining manner, and simply did it in a way which doesn't drive people away from your opinion, then maybe you could at least reach neutral ground on peoples judgement of what you have to say.


G.I.U.L.I.O. unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 29th, 2009, 10:42 pm


THANK YOU, that's exactly what I've been trying to say Dregan, I just couldn't word it correctly. SliceOfDog also says the truth.


Cat Top unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., November 30th, 2009, 1:48 pm


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ahahaha oh wow.

BAWWW, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT I'M A FAGGOT AND IGNORANT AND JUST CRITISISE EVERY SPRITE COMIC AND SIT IN MY BASEMENT

new rule gentlemen. if he ever comes here again, ignore him. i think he's just an attentionfag.


Lugbzurg unknowingly drank PUMPKIN FLAVOURED Cintreuse., December 4th, 2009, 4:27 pm

(At Cat Top)
Got that right, man. He may be the single worst excuse I've ever seen as a critic. That was just... barbaric. Almost as if he's retarded or something. It was just... awful. He needs criticism on his criticism. Well, actually, he did. He got plenty. And he just got worse.

Let this be an example to all.


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